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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 25 Jun 93       Volume 11 : Issue 129

Today's Topics:

      [*] dev/a4d/4th-dimension-304-update.hqx
      A dependent Apple?
      Aldus IntelliDraw (Q)
      Apple keyboard problem? Call for reports.
      Arabic Wordprocessr ?FAQ?!
      Auto Doubler Patcher 2.0.1
      aux.bin (A)
      Basic Color Monitor in education bundles
      BEWARE GCC Printers - MAYBE NOT
      Changing Zone of EtherTalked LW IIg (Q)
      Chooser Dialog Accelerator
      Danger of ozone from laserwriters ?
      Email addresses
      Faster Mouse Speed (Q)
      Floppy Desktop Files (C) (2 msgs)
      Flowcharting software (Q)
      FTP site for Apple II
      Ftp site for PPD files?
      FullWrite redux? (q)
      Help needed for xfering TEXT ONLY files (R)
      How RAM speed & CPU speed affect computer (R!!)
      How to boot off an external disk?
      I *heart* Microsoft
      I *heart* Microsoft (C)
      I *heart* Microsoft (R) (2 msgs)
      IIsi and ethernet
      Inserting a return into a string (A)
      Inside macintosh volumes
      installing ARA (short summary of replies)
      Investment Programs (A)
      Is Sculley leaving Apple?
      Joining file (Q)
      Losing the original Image
      Mac Internet Tour Guide
      Mac OS bugs
      MacX server version compatibility (R)
      Microsoft & Affordable Macs
      Microsoft focus
      Microsoft Vaporware and Basic Computing Needs
      MIDI Sound modules/Mac Sequencing/Stereo speakers
      MS Word and post script files
      Multiple Page TIFF Viewer
      MYM
      OkiLaser 840 PPD request for Laserwriter 8.0
      PageMaker PPD file for QMS ColorSCRIPT 210 (Q)
      Please Explain DAL
      Postcard stock & Change of Address template
      PowerBook 165C: VGA support? Screen? (Q)
      PowerPC News/Moto Ad/60 SPECint92 again
      Problems with FTPMAIL (A)
      Quatra 800 is it reliable (Q)
      Remote connection problem (Q)
      Repairing Apple 13 in RGB Monitor
      Resolve & AutoDoubler update
      screensaver FAQ
      Terminal Emulator Name Wanted
      The Mac Internet Tour Guide
      Trouble Installing ARA (R), and more ARA stuff (Q)
      What does more ROM do for you?
      Word6 compatible with WinWord?
      Zterm compatible with SupraFaxModem v32????

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 22:35:05 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Backup Moderator)
Subject: [*] dev/a4d/4th-dimension-304-update.hqx

From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] 4D 304 update
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 01:23:28 -0400 (EDT)

4th Dimension 3.0.4 is the latest upgrade to 4th Dimension. It is
intended to be used with 4D Compiler 2.0.4 and 4D Runtime 3.0.4.

The enclosed file is a self-extracting archive.

If you have difficulties installing 4th Dimension, please contact
ACI US Technical Support at [phone], AppleLink ACI.TECH,
Internet [e-mail].

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/a4d/4th-dimension-304-update.hqx; 1838K]

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Date: 25 Jun 1993 00:28:41 -0400
From: [e-mail] (David Fry)
Subject: A dependent Apple?

In article <carter.740846055@student> [e-mail] (the
Shrike) writes:
>
>       I have become increasingly concerned about the near future of Apple
>as a private company.  Around the time of John Sculley's realignment within
>Apple, rumors circulated that he had suggested that IBM buy Apple.  This
>struck me as being the ultimate betrayal of a company which has fought Big
Blue
>so strongly for so many years and also suggested Apple's financial situation
>was considerably weaker than I'd guessed from the company's ambitious plans
to
>introduce the Newton and Power PC.

(Hi Jerry!) Apple in general and John Sculley in particular have a
vision what the future should be.  They have no debts of any concern
now (although there is talk that their credit rating will be
downgraded), but they simply need more money to do what they want to
do.  There is no danger of them disappearing in a puff any time soon,
but they are making plans to be around at the end of the century, and
those require more capital.   The fact that the company's stock
capitalization dropped so much in the last three weeks just makes it
worse.  They'd probably like to buy back some of their own stock now,
but they can't afford it.

Sculley can't visualize the computer industry as an "us versus them" affair,
although I feel the same way you do in my gut. His offer to IBM
was to merge the best parts of the two companies. By that he meant merge Apple
as it was basically already structured, with the "good" parts of IBM,
such as their R&D division. I don't think he meant that Apple + IBM =
IBM-Plus,
but rather that Apple + IBM = something new.  Anyway, it was part of
his job interview: "If I was the head of IBM, I'd do this."

>       Today according to a recent clari.nb.apple article, there is
>speculation of a possible merger between Apple and AT&T.  ALSO there are
>rumors that Apple may lay off 10% (2000) of its workforce.  And the current
>trend among financial analysts is a reduction in Apple's expected earnings.

They were probably doing the same thing with AT&T.  More likely, say
the rumors, are joint ventures, using AT&T's cash.

Apple lays off 2000 workers about every three years, so it's a pretty
regular routine now.  The reduced earning expectations are not taking
into account the layoffs, so that will help the situation, and the
most pessimistic ones are the ones making the big news.

>       In some ways, I am reminded of Apple's decision to launch the
>Macintosh, slowly abandoning their prime money maker at the time.  There have
>certainly been previous occations when the company's future seemed cloudy,
but
>Apple has become a larger organization.  I'm not convinced that it can
>reorganize at will.
>       Having used Apple products for 15 years now, I'd describe myself as
>a strong supporter of the company.  The news of recent days has been
>deeply disturbing.  I look forward to hearing any rumors or insight which
>others may have.

I think Apple's biggest problem is that "Too much is never enough."
Right now, I think they have too many products.  Take the printers,
for instance.  Who in the world can keep track of all the different
models they have and when the new ones are coming, etc.  Each of
these products consumes resources for development, support, marketing,
inventory, etc. I think they'd sell just as many products if they
eliminated a few models.  The price gaps could be filled by repricing,
or they might just sacrifice a few sales to HP.

I'm worried about Apple, too, but let history be our comfort. I
remember the summer of 1985 when Apple was in very bad straights.  The
very big talk was that GE was going to buy Apple, but decided they
didn't want it.  Their stock was $7/share (when adjusted for the split
since then).  But desktop publishing was invented, the Plus was
released, and away they went.  Apple sales are 16 times what they
were when Sculley arrived.  Maybe the Newton or the PowerPC will
do the same thing.

David Fry                                  [e-mail]
Gullfoss Software                          Phone/Fax: [phone]
3725 Glazier Way
Ann Arbor, MI 48105

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:36:56 +0200
From: Martin Jourdan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Aldus IntelliDraw (Q)

Dear netters,

I am highly interested in the IntelliDraw drawing software by Aldus,
but I have specific questions/requirements about it before buying.
Unfortunately, it is not officially distributed in France, so I have a
hard time finding information about it.  So I turn to the net to ask
you who have actually used it:

1. Do the ``arrow'' and ``dotted/dashed'' line styles also apply to
unclosed polygons and Bezier curves, in addition to straight lines?

2. Is it possible to ``stickily connect'' two objects using unclosed
polygons and Bezier curves, in addition to straight lines?

3. Can you easily create circle or ellipse arcs of any angle (not just
quarter circles as with the PICT standard tool)?

Any other comment on IntelliDraw would also be greatly appreciated.

Please answer by e-mail and I'll post a summary.

Many thanks in advance.

Martin Jourdan <[e-mail]>, INRIA, Rocquencourt, France.
    Phone [phone], fax [phone]
#include <std_disclaimer.h>

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 22:41 GMT0BST-1
From: Malcolm Bebb <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple keyboard problem? Call for reports.

Some users have reported problems on LCs and IISi's, reputedly due
to a problem with (some) Apple keyboards.  The symptoms are:

1) The cursor showing up a few characters away from the actual
insertion point.

2) Text with a Caps style displaying incorrectly (wrong case),
although it prints Ok and looks Ok on other Macs.

3) Text with a Caps style alternating between correct style and
original case when typing in that paragraph.

One or more of the above have been observed in:

a) Nisus on a IISi/LC (second hand report, don't know the detail).
 Logged in current Macintosh Bible, I believe.

b) Word 4 on an LC (original), reported to me by the normal user
  (Insertion point position).  System 7.0 or 7.01, UK

c) Word 5.0 and 5.1 on a IISi (all three above - observed by me!)
   System 7.01, UK

The problems only occur when a standard or adjustable (ergonomic)
keyboard is used.  Changing to an extended kbd "cures" the
problem. I have limited experience to support this.

There is a possible link with other software - removing an (old)
version of Darkside from my IISi cured the problem, but only
temporarily. I have tried with extensions etc removed/off, but
only came up with  Darkside.  Don't think this is the real problem.


I would like to get some more info on this, which I will of course
pass on if I get anything worthwhile (and summarize if
appropriate).

So if you have experienced the above (or similar) problems, or
know  someone who has, or can otherwise contribute (perhaps by
shedding some light!!), please mail me with brief details at:

     [e-mail]      (preferred)
      [e-mail]     (ukfca1::bebb for SInet)

Thanks in advance for any feedback,

Malcolm

No disclaimers, I PAY for this account!!!

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 14:33:52 GMT
From: Michael Everson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Arabic Wordprocessr ?FAQ?!

I bet this has been posted a lot.

I need a smart free text editor right quick. Something written
to understand the Arabic and Hebrew script systems. (BOTH)
Does such a thing exist? If it doesn't, what commercial
products _really_ support these scripts? Please respond
directly to me on this one. I'll summarize if anything worthwhile
comes up.

Thanks,
Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD; Richview, Clonskeagh; Dublin 14; E/ire
Phone: [phone]  Fax: [phone]  Home: [phone]

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 11:11:49 +0700
From: [e-mail] (Priyajeev Narain Trika)
Subject: Auto Doubler Patcher 2.0.1

I recently got hold of the Auto Doubler Patcher 2.0.1.
After getting hold of it in my account, I decided to
download it to my Macintosh LC.  Unfortunatly I
downloaded it using Zterm "Smart Mac Binary".  I
don't know if that was what I was supposed to do.
I then deleted the patcher from my account on internet
and logged off.  The patcher doesn't launch.  What do
I have to do after i get hold of AD Patcher in my
account.  This is not just limited to the Auto Doubler.

Basically for all of you who have downloaded something
>From the infomac site or one of its mirrors what do you
do once you get it into your account to have it launch on
your mac.  Thanks...

Priyajeev Trika
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 10:12:52 -0100
From: [e-mail] (andrew jones)
Subject: aux.bin (A)

Dear all,
Last week i asked what an aux.bin file was, specifically in the case
of the gnu gcc compiler. I would like to thank everybody who answered
the question, and especially John Coolidge, who actually did the
port to A/UX.

It seems that in this case, due to historical reasons the file (though
labeled .bin) is a tar file. However, there is now a much newer version
of gcc for A/UX on wuarchive.wustl.edu in /systems/aux/gnu/gcc-2.4.2.bin
.tar.z. You will also need to grab gzip-1.0.7.bin.tar.Z from the same
place unless you already have gzip. then:
1) cd to /usr/local  ...on your A/UX machine
2) type 'zcat gzip-1.0.7.bin.tar.Z | tar xfo -' to unpack gzip
3) cd gzip-1.0.7
4) type 'mv * /usr/local/bin'
5) cd to /usr/local
6) type '/usr/local/bin/gzip -d<gcc-2.4.2.bin.tar.z | tar xfo -' to
   unpack the gcc binaries
7) cd to gcc-bin
8) read the README and INSTALL files.

For other people new to A/UX, or thinking about it i would recommend getting
a copy of the A/UX FAQ from jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov.

PLEASE NOTE: the above referes ONLY to A/UX.

People also replied saying that in general they had problems with .bin
files. Under the Mac OS these are MacBinary files, and you will need
to transfere them to your mac with binary protocols (FTP or Kermit etc).
Then to get the application out use something like MacBinary, BinHex5
(i think) or there is also an Apple File Exchange translator, all
available from sumex-aim.

Thanks again to everybody out there who helped
andrew ([e-mail])

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:03:57 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Norman Chretien)
Subject: Basic Color Monitor in education bundles

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #128, Rick Gore summarized the comments he received
about  Apple's Basic Color Monitor.  His poll results agree completely with
everything I have heard, including my own grumblings about the poor picture
quality.  Unfortunately, this monitor is the only option for those in
education who are considering the LC III "Back to School" bundle.  What are
other schools telling students and faculty?  The difference in quality is
negligible?  Buy the Centris, which comes with the Trinitron?  Go to a
superstore and get the LC III with a Sony monitor at close-to-education
prices?  It's quite a dilemma for computer departments whose existence
depends on sales revenue.

I'll summarize here.

Norman Chretien
Wheaton College
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 08:30:51 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dave Hirsh)
Subject: BEWARE GCC Printers - MAYBE NOT

Well it is somewhat reassuring to hear that GCC's Level 2 interpreter is of
such good quality. I'll still wait until I see some reviews on these lasers
before I make a buying decision. I guess an average laser user like myself
would
normally associate Adobe with Level 2 PostScript printers UNLESS STATED
OTHERWISE. The GCC brochures on these lasers only used the term 'Level 2
compatible' once. Heck, even the PC vendors state whether their BIOS is
Phoenix, AMI or whoever else is out there. I'd like to see the same kind of
disclosure from all laser printer vendors in their advertising too.

Dave Hirsh
Cincinnati,OH

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Date: 25 Jun 1993 14:39:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Jorgensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Changing Zone of EtherTalked LW IIg (Q)

Greetings,

I've searched high and low but can't find out how to change the zone that a
LaserWriter IIg on EtherTalk appears in. I have tried the PS code which is
used to change the printer's name but it hasn't worked. Funny thing is, I
haven't even been able to get this code to change the name of the LW.

I sent this code to the LW using the LW Utility and formatted in the
PostScript Style in Word 5.1.

serverdict begin 0 exitserver
statusdict begin (LW IIg:LaserWriter@NewZone) setprintername

Has anyone done this? and how?

Thanks in advance... I'll post a summary.

Peter Jorgensen MS-IRM                                  Colgate University
13 Oak Drive                 Research & Instructional Computing Specialist
Hamilton, NY 13346                Mac/DOS/VMS/PMDF consultant, HyperTalker
315-824-7742

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 14:16:46 EDT
From: Jonathan Kamien <[e-mail]>
Subject: Chooser Dialog Accelerator

re: bypassing the chooser dialog.

As part of Quickeys 2.1.3, there is a type of extension called 'Choosy'
that lets you select a printer with one keystroke. I'm not sure if this
extension works with system 6.  I think it can be set up to operate as
a dragon-drop application, though.

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Date: 25 Jun 1993 10:14:50 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Robert Lichter)
Subject: Danger of ozone from laserwriters ?

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>Is there a significant danger of ozone in the area around a laserprinter
>such as an Apple LaserWriter? One can often smell the ozone, which, I have
>heard, probably means that its concentration is dangerously high.

>Are there filters installed in  laserprinters to absorb the ozone - the Canon
>engine is meant to have one, I have been told.

>Thanks for any  advice on this matter

>David  Schiffmann
>Corpus Christi College
>Cambridge
>England

>[e-mail]

I don't know about filters in the engine, but the ozone is definitely
there, and is of modest concern.  I have my LW IINT on a stand on the
floor under my desk, and the ozone gets trapped there.  To minimize the
effect, I have a small (ca. 25-cm) fan at one side of the printer aimed
slightly upward so that the ozone is dissipated in a direction away from
me.  That seems to work well.  The fan is on a switched powerstrip to which
the LW is also attached, so that both are switched on at the same time.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 17:02 PDT
From: Terry Carroll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Email addresses

>       Barry Wolman who had the following "addresses"
> internet:               [e-mail] (user now not known)
> America on-line:        bwolman
> compuserve:             71021,3713
> BIX:                    bwolman
>
> As I only have internet access, I can only check the first. Could somebody
> check the others for me?

You can send internet mail to Compuserve, America Online and BIX from
internet.

To send to Compuserve, change the comma to a period (full stop) and append
"@compuserve.com," e.g., [e-mail].

To send to America Online, append "@aol.com," e.g., [e-mail].

To send to BIX, append "@bix.com," e.g., [e-mail].

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 09:46:21 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Faster Mouse Speed (Q)

I'm using a 19" monitor, so my mouse seems too slow, even on the fastest
control panel setting. Is there an INIT or something that can speed it up?
I looked in the archives, but didn't see anything that looked obviously like
what I want.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 11:19:09 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Floppy Desktop Files (C)

Ephraim Fithian and Dave Martin have recently described methods (more or
less complicated) for rebuilding the Desktop file on a floppy disk.

My comment is, why bother?  It seems easier, and certainly more foolproof,
to take a newly formatted disk, select all files on the old disk, and copy
them to the new disk.
(Do not copy by dragging the icon of the old disk onto the new disk's icon.
 I expect that would also copy the old Desktop file.)

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 14:02:02 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Dave Martin)
Subject: Floppy Desktop Files (C)

>My comment is, why bother?  It seems easier, and certainly more foolproof,
>to take a newly formatted disk, select all files on the old disk, and copy
>them to the new disk.

If you prefer that, then that's fine, but it is faster to rebuild the
desktop on the floppy than to reformat the disk (or format a new one),
particularly since you are also adding in the copy time (which becomes even
more of a hassle on the Macs that *require* System 7.x, since most of
them--all of the current ones--do not have the option of a second floppy
drive).
The method I described is not complicated and lasts until you reformat the
disk, without requiring you to do anything once the alias file is on there.
The main reason to make it invisible (using FileTyper or any of the other
quite numerous utilities that are on SUMEX) is that you then do not have to
remember to NOT delete the alias. It--like the Desktop file--will remain on
the disk through rebuilds and select-all-and-trash maneuvers.
As with many things, almost every solution is valid for someone.
-- Dave Martin - TAMU/GERG - [e-mail] - [e-mail] --

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 07:04:25 PDT
From: "Fred Hartman"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Flowcharting software (Q)

Our campus has recently purchased a telephone voice response unit which we
will
use to enable our students to register for courses using touch-tone phones. We
are looking for recommendations for flowcharting software we can use to help
us
develop the logic of the registration process. We don't need a flowchart
program
that can create source code (C, Pascal, etc). We do need a program that will
help us depict the logic of the process quickly and easily.

We have looked at Design by Meta Software. Its ability to collapse an entire
subsection of the logic into a single icon on the flowchart of the larger
process is very useful. But we found the interface to be cumbersome.

Does anyone have a recommendation?
Thanks in advance!



Fred Hartman              [e-mail]
Computer Services         218-755-2088
Bemidji State University, Bemidji, MN, 56601

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 10:27:42 -0600 (MDT)
From: Bradley Nation <[e-mail]>
Subject: FTP site for Apple II

Does anyone know of a FTP site on the Internet for Apple II stuff?  I have
tried ftp.apple.comm but so far I am unable to get anywhere on that ftp
site, yes I am able to logon but can't find anthing for Apple IIGS.  if
it's there, where is it and how do I get to it?
Brad Nation
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 08:16:58 EDT
From: Tom Prusa <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ftp site for PPD files?

Good news! I just ftp'ed the Laserwriter 8.0 print driver from Apple's
ftp site.  Ftp over to ftp.apple.com, login anonymous.
Look under the dts subdirectory (I think I found it under
the dts/utils directory but it may have been dts/mac/utils....)
This is a real boon, saving those of us with internet access
$24.95....

In his Macweek column this past week Ric Ford reports that Adobe
also has a ftp site.  Located there are a whole bunch of PPD files.
For the uninitiated, PPD files contain information about
specific postscript printers...  such as the Dataproducts 960
laserprinter that sits on my desk.  This information, say, could
allow you to take advantage of certain options specific to your
particular printer (e.g., printing at different resolutions).
In fact, these PPD files are the only difference between the
Apple's Laserwriter 8.0 driver and Adobe's 8.0 driver.
(Apple only supplies PPD files for their printers.)

Anyway, does anybody know the ftp address for Adobe?  And, does
anybody know whether it is okay for these PPD files to be posted
to info-mac?   It seems to me it would be more convenient to
have them available at sumex (say, under the prn directory).

Tom Prusa

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:56:27 PST
From: Nelson Byrne <nbyrne@192.149.217.18>
Subject: FullWrite redux? (q)

I thought I saw a notice somewhere that Borland has relaxed its death grip on
this most wonderful application. Am I dreaming?
     Nelson Byrne
>>>>>[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 07:39:48 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Bruce E. Wilson, Eastman Chemical Company,
([e-mail]))
Subject: Help needed for xfering TEXT ONLY files (R)

Regarding Hao Shi's post in #128 on xfering files from Mac to PC, etc.

1) Using Apple File Exchange is fine, but you have to set up the text
conversion operations.  In the "Mac to Mac" menu, select the "text
translation operations" and check the appropriate boxes to convert
CR to CR/LF, which is the problem with things appearing on one line.
I have saved the settings for AFE in two different files, one entitled
"Text Dos-->Mac" and the other "Text Mac-->Dos".  I double click on the
appropriate one to start AFE and do the translation in the desired
direction.

2) There are a multitude of utilites for the PC that will fix text files.
I've written one, as have a large number of PC people that work with Macs
and/or Unix.  You can download from wuarchive.wustl.edu (or anyplace
else that mirrors simetel20).  Look in the /mirrors/msdos/txtutl directory.
Most anyone with more than a small amount of C programming can write the
program to do the conversion.

        Bruce Wilson ([e-mail])

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 3:49:52 HST
From: John Churchill <[e-mail]>
Subject: How RAM speed & CPU speed affect computer (R!!)

Avram ([e-mail]) wrote in infomac #126 (closing remarks):

> This is why a 33MHz Mac IIvx is not faster than a 25MHz LC III. It
> is because We can't make RAM fast enough to keep up with the faster
> processor.  The reason a 20MHz Centris (68040) is faster than a 33MHz is
> that it has a RAM cache - a little bit of RAM that IS 60 nanoseconds or
> better (it would be too expensive to make all RAM as fast a cache RAM).

It is really frustrating to read this kind of thing coming from
someone who has the intention of enlightening others on technical subjects.
The above paragraph from his post was completely incorrect!  First, the
IIvx has a 32mhz processor, but the speed of its ram has nothing to do
with it.  The system bus is running at only 16mhz, and to communicate with
the ram, the processor must send informaiton through the bus.  Secondly,
the 040 is faster than the 030 not because of faster ram, but because the
ram is sitting next to the processor and does not have to go outside the
chip to address it.  That, of course, is in addition to many other features
of the 040.

I am not an expert on how ram access times relate to system performance,
but with a closing remark like that I cannot trust the information in the
rest of the post.

John Churchill

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 11:51:21 EST
From: [e-mail] (Mark Perry)
Subject: How to boot off an external disk?

Hi All,
I have an external 300 MB hard disk off my Mac SE/30. It has a SCSI ID
of 4. I have one of the partitions loaded with System 7.1, but even if
I select that partition as the "Startup Disk" in Control Panels, it boots
off my internal disk.

I think the problem is because I need SCSIProbe to mount the external disk
normally - maybe the disk isn't spinning up fast enough for the system to
recognise it when it searches for a boot disk?

Has anyone been able to boot off an external disk in a similar case?
Any advice or tips would be appreciated ...
Thanks,
Mark
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 11:38:32 EDT
From: "Judith A. Wynne" (IPIPMO) <[e-mail]>
Subject: I *heart* Microsoft

I have been reading mac-digests for several months, learning alot
and thoroughly enjoying the "flames," etc.   Could not resist an attempt
at answering one of the items, subj above.

IMHO, as a lover of the Mac with a husband who is a dyed-in-the-wool PC
(DOS) user, we have found that the Windows (GASP, GASP) environment is a
good compromise.  We have a PC at home and I use a Mac at work.  I have
almost no problems using Word and Excel in both locations, because of
Windows.  I do not have to waste time remembering different commands,
keyboard equivalents, etc.  To the run-of-the-mill computer user, it is
a good compromise.  I'm sure there are bugs, there are bugs and problems
with everything.

Don't flame me, this is just my humble, humble opinion.

Cheers.

Judy W.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 12:30:26 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: I *heart* Microsoft (C)

Brian R. Gaeke <[e-mail]> writes:

>I too am a fan of Microsoft products. I haven't seen anything on the Mac
>that would make me want to switch away from Microsoft products.

    Most people wouldf probably tell you to get out more. There are a
number of products on the Mac market that are far superior to their MS
couterparts. However, it is difficult to beat MS for Spreadsheet and
Word Processing.

>However, on the DOS side of the fence...**retch**

    Let's just not get into this side of the discussion, shall we?

-Hades

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 12:28:24 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: I *heart* Microsoft (R)

[e-mail] writes:

>I am beginng to feel like the dissenting opinion, but I like Microsoft.
>For my money there is no other software out there that is as powerful,
>user-friendly, or more widely used. Besides that, it is just FUN to use.
>Is there *anyone* else who still likes Microsoft?

    Word and Excel might do some very nice things, but I wouldn't call
either of them "FUN to use."

>That's a load of BS.

>WordPerfect beats the daylights out of M$-Word.

    WP certainly has the edge in page layout features, but for Word
Processing, it does not do as much as Word does, as well as Word does
it. If you want to make that kind of comparison you need to look at
Nisus, but it lacks a good Table Editor. If Wp does what you want then
use it, but don't try and tell us that is is better, in all respects,
than Word 5.1.

>1-2-3 and Resolve (take your pick) both blow away M$-Excel.

    Resolve was never worth the Disks it came on. And 1-2-3 for the Mac
never got out of the bug-ridden stages of development. Excel 4.0 for the
Mac is the best Spreadsheet on the market.

>Persuasion destroys M$-Powerpoint.

    Have to agree with this one. Powerpoint really sucks.

>WordPerfect Works is the nemesis of M$-Works.

    Um, no. That would be ClarisWorks 2.0. WP Works wasn't even designed
by WP Corp. They bought it.

>And M$-Mail is no match for cc:Mail or Notes.

    Non of these holds a candle to Blitzmail, of course you need to buy
a Server or Worstation class machine to use Blitzmail, but it is still
the best Mac-based e-mail system there is. It is produced by Dartmouth
College Software Development, in case you were wondering.

-Hades

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 22:51:54 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Kurt D Whitmore)
Subject: I *heart* Microsoft (R)

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>That's a load of BS.

>WordPerfect beats the daylights out of M$-Word.

>Brad Ackerman


I know a good drug rehab program for you.

Kurt

--
Kurt D. Whitmore                        Ask me about Mathematica:
Iowa State University                   [e-mail]
[e-mail]        Mathematica Gopher Site at ISU in
June!

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 09:27:07 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: IIsi and ethernet

My office is providing all of us with Ethernet connections *crowd goes
wild*, but my desktop machine is a IIsi with a 2-page monitor AND video
card. Where the heck can I put the Ethernet card? Is there any way I can
have both?

Thanks,

Susan

[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 20:46:27 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Inserting a return into a string (A)

>In need to concatinate a return into a string of words, so that
>my popupmenu will display them properly.  Any ideas?  BTW
>this is to be done in Hypercard.

put "this is a string" & return & "with a return in it" into bg fld "demo"

Kee Nethery
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 00:21:24 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Paul Westbrook)
Subject: Inside macintosh volumes

   I am looking for some specific information in Inside Macintosh.  I
was wondering if anyone could tell me what the topic of each of the
volumes is?
   Please send me e-mail if you have information.

                        Thanks,
                        Paul Westbrook

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 09:08:42 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Lawrence M. Hanser)
Subject: installing ARA (short summary of replies)

Dear Friends,

Thanks to the number of you who replied to me directly.  To a person,
everyone suggested that I check to see if I had AppleTalk turned on.  I did
not, and as soon as I did, voila, ARA worked (though I have yet to try to
dial in or out with it).

Thanks,

Larry

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 20:46:58 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Investment Programs (A)

>Anyone have any experience with programs that help a
>user manage investments like stocks, bonds and mutual
>funds?  I have a friend that is looking to
>purchase a Mac and wants something that can help him
>track trends and costs.

Wealthbuilder 2.0 for Macintosh looked like a good way to invest in stocks.
It has ties to a database for updating stock information, bonds, etc. Saw a
demo at MacWorld SF and it looked pretty cool. I have not purchased it
since I invest my money into other places but it looked very good.

Reality Technologies, Ltd.
3624 Market Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
800-346-2024

Just my opinion,
Kee Nethery
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 11:39:14 +0200
From: "Olaf F. Normann" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Is Sculley leaving Apple?

Hello!
I'm just curious.
[e-mail] is telling that:
  "As for the restructuring--I am somewhat glad to see Sculley go."

What is this "restructuring" all about? And is Scully leaving Apple?

-olaf

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 11:53:30 edt
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Joining file (Q)

I recently received a Quicktime move that was 6 meg in size in a .Hqx
formate in order to transfer it to floppy I split it into 6 parts,
saved it do disk on a msdox pc and transfered it to my mac via apple
file exchange,the problem is recombining it. I tried using Macwrite
pro increasing the memory size to 13,000 k and inserting each section
after each other this worked but when I did a save the save box has
still not come up after 4 1/2 hours though it seems to be still
trying. "Mouse watch is moveing slooooly". Any help would be welcomed.
Thanks in advance. Ps I'm using a Centris 610 80 meg Hd 12 meg
internal memory and 5 meg of virtual.

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 11:11:14 +0700
From: [e-mail] (Priyajeev Narain Trika)
Subject: Losing the original Image

Hi there!
This posting may sound very premature due to the fact that
I am not very familiar with drawing and painting programs.
Recently I was working on Aldus SuperPaint 3.0 and was
trying to make testellations.  Well I drew the image,
duplicated it, and gave it a free rotate since i was not in
the drawing layer......well while rotating the image I lost
certain dots and the lines were not "dead straight" anymore.

Does anybody know what i can do to preserve the original
image and rotate it and not lose anything.  Please advise.
Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 9:04 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac Internet Tour Guide

[e-mail] writes in Digest 128:

>I would like to request that information on The Mac Internet Tour Guide
>be archived as a text file in the appropriate directory on the Stanford
>macintosh FTP server
(stuff deleted)

Hmm, not sure if her submission made it into the archive or just into the
Digest.  But there's an alternative, and perfectly usable, self-running
Macromind Director presentation on Internet available for downloading at
nic.merit.edu in internet/resources/mac.cruise.  Of course, this is a bit
chicken-and-egg because you'd have to know something about Internet to
download it - but then you're reading the Digest, so you probably already
do!

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Date: 25 Jun 1993 00:23:18 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Adam Young)
Subject: Mac OS bugs

to contact about these bugs. In any event developers should be
aware of these two bugs.

    1) _SetFileInfo will permit the caller to set a files
    modification date to a date earlier than the
    creation date. This should not be allowed: UNIX systems
    do not allow this. This leads to inconsistencies in
    the file system.

    2) _UniqueID will not work unless _InitGraf has been
    called. _UniqueID calls the Quickdraw function
    _Random which will cause a bus error if Quickdraw
    hasn't been initialized. There is no reason why it should
    be necessary to initialize quickdraw to make this
    unrelated OS call.


                            Adam Young
                            Yale University

                  e-mail: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 10:03:30 EDT
From: Tony Silva <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacX server version compatibility (R)

I use the MacX 1.2 X11R4 server with (and only with) X11R5 clients on
UNIX machines (Suns) and have never had a problem.

Tony Silva, Atlantic Aerospace Elec. Corp., [phone], [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 01:18:40 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Microsoft & Affordable Macs

I've watched the love and hate debate about Microsoft that has raged
over the Info-Mac net during the past few days.  Although I'm an
ardent advocate of the Macintosh and find some of the Microsoft
products I've used lacking (e.g. MS Works), let's not forget that
Microsoft and it's attempted imitation of the Mac interface, Windows,
was instrumental in making the Macintosh a more affordable computer.
Six years ago I paid $3000 CDN for a Mac Plus c/w a 30 meg hard drive.
Today I can buy a Centris 610 with a monitor for about $2500 and it
seems to be as fast as any of the 486 33SX Intel machines I've used.
(The Intel machines are slightly cheaper, until you instal a scsi drive, a
decent video card and monitor).  The point is that without the competition
which MS Windows provided, we might be paying megabucks for a Color Classic
and a mortgage for a Centris 650. So whether or not we like MS products,
Microsoft may have helped many us buy the Macintosh we might otherwise
not have afforded. As my uncle said, don't get knots in your undershorts.
Cheers, Alard ([e-mail])

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 09:37:22 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Microsoft focus

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Besides, Microsoft care about profit above all else, and
> they realise that the installed base of LCII-type machines is just too
> large for them to ignore.

I disagree, Richard. Microsoft doesn't give one whit about the individual
user on a low end machine. That's because an individual user will
only buy one copy of Word or Excel. Instead, Microsoft aims at pleasing
the corporate buyer who will buy 10,000 copies of both. And I wonder
if the corporate buyers are buying for LCIIs or something a bit speedier.

This isn't to say that Word 6.0 et al won't run on low end machines -
I haven't heard that from my sources. However, you can see for yourself
that the current Microsoft programs are dogs on low-end hardware,
and when has an updated program from Microsoft (or most any other
business application vendor) actually gotten faster after a major
upgrade?

My conclusion (just to stick with the thread): Buy what you want to
buy, but examine Microsoft's products and the competition carefully.
Don't be a lemming. If Nisus or something else will do your job better,
buy it. If you have to buy Word because of a unique feature, so be
it. I just hate seeing people buy Microsoft products because "No one
ever got fired for buying Microsoft." The important thing is to think
about what you're doing.

cheers ... Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 93 00:22:54 -0400
From: "Keith E Gatling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Microsoft Vaporware and Basic Computing Needs

Tom Clifton writes:

   > Interesting conclusion. I think I prefer an alternate
   > conclusion, stay away from software vendors that require
   > mid-level platforms for basic computing needs.  There is still
   > plenty of "leanware" available to get the job done.  You might
   > even avoid getting hit with high-priced upgrades every year.
   > Just a thought.

Well...interestingly enough, if I'd had "basic computing needs" I would've
never moved up from MacWrite to WriteNow and later on from WriteNow to
Word.  If I'd had only "basic computing needs" I would've never moved up
>From my Plus with the 20mb *external* HD to an LC with a 40mb *internal* and
a 44mb removable cartridge drive.  But as it turns out the stuff I do is
*more easily done* with Word than any other word processing package.  I even
have ClarisWorks, which is a pretty good integrated package, but still
doesn't give me the ease of use for some functions and all out power that
Word does...it's good for teaching my 6th and 9th graders on, but *I* need
Word.  And you can add me to the list of people who say "I *heart*
Microsoft."

keg

* [e-mail]   I've got plenty of opinions.  Just ask my wife! *

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 22:56:39 -0500
From: "Betty Aune" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MIDI Sound modules/Mac Sequencing/Stereo speakers

I am writing to find out if any of you Mac MIDI/Multimedia/Presentation users
have used the following products, and what you think of them:

MIDI Sound modules
 -----------------
Roland SC-33 SRP $695
Roland SC-7  (built-in MIDI interface)   SRP $399   (advertised in Apple cat.)
Yamaha TG-100 (built-in MIDI)  Street $399
Yamaha CBX-T3 (built-in MIDI)  Street $299  (advertised in TigerSoftware cat.)
Emu Sound Engine (built-in MIDI) Direct $595  (advertised in NewMedia mag.)

These are all compact General MIDI (GM) modules, with audio inputs.
Has anyone used one of these? Suggestions/Recommendations?

Macintosh MIDI Sequencing software
 ---------------------------------
MusicShop (Upgrade to Opcode's EZ Vision)  Street $99
Metro (Upgrade to Dr. T's Beyond)
Trax

These are mostly entry level sequencing programs. I found out that Metro is
not
developed by Dr. T as it was bought out by a company called OSC which also
developed Digidesign's Deck.

Compact Stereo Speakers
 ----------------------
Yamaha CBX-S3 Digital Speakers     Street $229  (advertised in TigerSoftware)
Persona Deluxe MacSpeakers         Street $149  (Tiger)
Koss HD/6   (4" dynamic driver, dynamic bass boost)  Street $99  (ad in Tiger)
Koss HD/4 Mid-size   Street $59
Koss HD/3 Compact    Street $49

Roland also makes a line of compact speaker systems but I don't have my New
Media magazine here to look them up. Anyone used these for presentations,
multimedia or MIDI setups? I'm curious about how they sound, being relatively
small, especially on the low end (bass response).

Thanks for your input...


 -------------------------------
Betty Aune, Disability Services
University of Minnesota
Email: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 16:55 PDT
From: Terry Carroll <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS Word and post script files

> I have a regular text file that contains post script.   I would like to
> include that file into a Microsoft Word document, and have it do the right
> thing (e.g. have the graphic show up in my document).  Does anyone know
> (a) if this is possible, and (b) how to do it?


Copy it into your document as you would any other text (i.e., either cut-and-
paste or use the INSERT FILE menu item).

Now, select the newly added PostScript text, then change it to the PostScript
style.  You do this by selecting FORMAT STYLE from the menu (or its keyboard
equivalent, Command-T), and selecting "PostScript" from thelist of styles
shown.  If you have the Ruler displayed, you can also do it by holding the
shift key and selecting "PostScript" from the style menu at the far left of
the Ruler (if you don't press the shift key, Word only lists the styles
you're using in that document -- holding the shift key will cause all styles
to be displayed).

This won't let the figure be seen in the document when you edit it, but it
flags to Word that the file contains PostScript commands, and it will pass
them on unchanged to the PostScript driver when you go to print.  Assuming
you have a PostScript printer, the figure will be printed in the appropriate
place in the text.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 07:10:14 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Catherine Rey)
Subject: Multiple Page TIFF Viewer

Is there such a thing as a multiple page TIFF viewer for
the Mac?  If there is, how can I get it?

C. Rey
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 09:28:43 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: MYM

As much as I hate to say it, the best place to get information on
MYM is on CompuServe in the MECA forum. I realize that's not free,
but with MYM, neither is tech support, so it equals out and you don't
spend time on the phone.

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> After years of using mulitple personal finance packages
> (concurrently), I decided to try the monumentous task of consolidating
> everything into MYM and now I need someone to commiserate with. I am sure
> that MYM can do the many things it is touted to do, but I have found many
> limitations and some bugs.

There are definitely some limitations with dividend reinvestments
I'm told, although I haven't run into them personally, having nothing
to play with. It also some quirks and oddities, but certainly has
more power and a nicer interface than MacMoney, which I used to use.
Overall, I like it, but I have so much trouble getting my mind around
the accounting principles that are totally independent of the program
that sometimes I get confused.

The interface is on the whole excellent.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 23:13:20 EDT
From: "James A. Connolly" <[e-mail]>
Subject: OkiLaser 840 PPD request for Laserwriter 8.0

I just downloaded diskcopy and laserwriter from FTP.APPLE.COM today.
The new driver is great with Apple printers.

I also have an OL840 (Okidata OkiLaser840 postscript printer).  I am
wondering where I should look to find (if one exists yet) the LW8.0
compatible PPD.  The OL840 PPD supplied by Aldus for PageMaker4.2 does
not follow the same file format (according to LW8.0).

All help would be  GREATLY  appreciated.

                       ...James

PS:  does anyone know if PageMaker 5.0 is released yet?
     I would love to upgrade my copy to a version which allows
     multiple documents to be open simultaneously.

[e-mail]      phone [phone]      fax [phone]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 13:28:55 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Alan Piszcz)
Subject: PageMaker PPD file for QMS ColorSCRIPT 210 (Q)

Has anyone seen a PageMaker PPD file for a QMS ColorSCRIPT 210 (Q)?


The printer is:
QMS ColorScript 210
Version: 2011.22, Revision 10
Release 1.0, Firmware Level 14.




Thanks in advance.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 07:38:46 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Pete Gontier)
Subject: Please Explain DAL

> Could someone please fill in the missing pieces about DAL.

I know more about DAL than I'm happy to admit, but I'll do it
anyway.

Basically, you're right about DAL being middleware. And you're right
about using it to send SQL to a remote database. The short answer to
the more complex of your questions is that you can get tons of info
in a developer kit from APDA. The API is pretty simple; the problem
is that the API isn't even half the battle. If you're doing anything
but the most trivial things, SQL can be quite a nasty language. And
choosing which version of middleware to use is non-trivial, too.

To make SQL and middleware go away, you can evaluate a product called
DataPrism from Brio Technology in Mountain View, CA (415-961-4110),
with which you can establish a zillion different kinds of connections
in addition to DAL and including Oracle and Sybase, which you
mentioned specifically. You can construct complex queries with a GUI
and save them in documents to be run again and again, and with an
amount of specifiable flexibility for each query. You can have your
program open those documents into Prism and have Prism run the
queries contained therein and automatically export the results to a
number of different file formats, including dBASE, which I imagine
you as a FoxBase programmer will be able to digest.

Yes, this has been a shameless plug for DataPrism, but I no longer
work for Brio and have no other interest in them except that I think
DataPrism is a cool product. When I explain some of the complexity
involved with becoming a DAL developer, you may see why.

If you decide to go with your own code as a solution, there are
things that the DAL developer's kit isn't likely to tell you. There
are various ways to get to the DAL middleware, and they change
according to which version of the System you're running. Also,
DAL is not your only option.

--- The language:

First of all, you should right away think of DAL as a language, a
super-sub-set of SQL to be exact. DAL does stand for Data Access
Language, after all, but Apple literature uses the word "DAL" to
refer to a number of different things, and if you know that right
away, you can avoid a lot of confusion. Just try to translate the
word in your head into whatever seems apporpriate from context.

--- The APIs:

Under 6, you get what's termed "the CL/1 API" by people who have to
term these things on a daily basis; CL/1 was the original name of
Apple's first data access product, and its name was changed to "DAL"
later, but this is just the terminology confusion I warned you
about.  The CL/1 API is what you'll get if you order the "DAL" kit
>From APDA.  It's also possible to order a DAM kit, and that probably
includes the CL/1 API, but more about that confusion later. The CL/1
API can connect to a lot of servers right out of the box, but is
crippled in the sense that it is difficult for third parties to
extend.  There is a whole barrel-full of confusion associated with a
technical understanding of a product like EveryWare's Butler API for
System 6, which essentially re-implements all of the CL/1 API right
under unsuspecting apps' noses. Tricky stuff.

Under 7, the old CL/1 API continues to work (and is even bundled!).
You also have a new API called DAM (Data Access Manager) which serves
roughly the same purpose as the CL/1 API but is easier for third
parties to extend. Basicallly, DAM specifies an API, and the work
gets done by database extension modules. The user can pretty freely
choose which extension module should be active for a given query or
session.  The application need not know about which extension has
been made active.  This means that any vendor which has a database
which speaks DAL can produce an extension module for DAM and have
existing apps talk to that database right away without modification.
It's a bit like the Communications Toolbox.

Anyway, Apple bundles a DAM extension with 7 which happens to access
all the databases that the old CL/1 API accessed -- and this is no
coincidence, because this bundled DAM extension is merely a thin
layer on top of the good old CL/1 API.  Unfortunately, confusion
results from the fact that both the CL/1 API and the DAM extension
live in the same file. And the fact that Apple's DAM extension is
fairly flexible (because it's built on the already-flexible CL/1 API)
is a source of more confusion -- users wonder exactly where they're
supposed to specify which server they want, etc.

Now, some interesting configuration and licensing issues. Apple no
longer bundles the standard DAM extension for DAL and CL/1 with
System 7.1. You get to buy it or license it or what-have-you. The
System 7 extension still works under System 7.1 (I wrote and tested
and shipped a fair amount of code against such a configuration).  The
old 6-era CL/1 API probably *still* works under 7 and 7.1, but I
haven't tried it. However, the CL/1 API in general, including the one
bundled with System 7, will probably not work forever, since DAM is
supposed to be "the way of the future".

Basically, the message I'm trying to get across here is that
choosing a middleware configuration on the client station is
non-trivial, and you do need to be careful which standard you write
code for, because of course it won't be pleasant to modify it later.
Mostly the DAM and CL/1 API's are the same logically (with slightly
different names), but they have annoying little differences. Like DAL
uses C strings and DAM uses pascal strings.  Some parameters are
different in subtle ways. Icky stuff.

--- The servers:

Now, you asked about what needs to live on the server, and that's
fairly bad news, in your case anyway. There are two parts of the
relevant software, which are, of course, the client and the server.
The DAL client needs to be able to speak whatever network protocol
needs speaking for the relevant server. And the DAL server needs to
have a DAL translator to turn DAL queries into native queries.  The
CL/1 API client software speaks a lot of network protocols, including
Oracle's but not, if I remember correctly, Sybase's.  The DAL
interpreter software is not cheap, either; I believe I have seen
figures over $10K per server. The nice thing about buying the
intepreters is that even $20K is cheap compared to development time,
and a price closer to $10K is even cheaper. You could theoretically
move to a new database and buy a DAL server for it and never change a
line of DAL client code.

--- Native APIs:

The other option you have is to abandon the idea of DAL/DAM and use
native APIs. Oracle and Sybase have them. You may be forced to use
Sybase's, which is called OpenClient, since to my knowledge there is
no DAL support for Sybase. It so happens that native APIs are in
general faster performers because they don't have to go through the
extra layer of a DAL interpreter. But of course using a native API is
a portability tradeoff, and at this time there is no way to use
OpenClient with THINK C without some major hacking.  And some vendors
make you attend expensive training sessions for their APIs before
they will give you technical support. (They want to handle all of the
questions they consider "stupid" before the questions get a chance to
happen.)
--
 Pete Gontier // EC Technology // [e-mail]

            "IBM, Intel, Microsoft... One down, two to go!"
               -- Josh de Cesare ([e-mail])

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 23:32:13 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Mark A. Saper)
Subject: Postcard stock & Change of Address template

Does anyone know if the U.S. Postoffice sells prestamped postcards in a
4-card sheet that would be appropriate for use in a laser printer?
Alternatively, how about blank postcard stock without the stamp?

I need to send change-of-addresses to a whole bunch of folks.  Does
anyone have a MSWord template for U.S. Post Office Form 3576 Change of
Address  or equivalent?

Thanks, Mark Saper, U-M Biophysics

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 16:08:15 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Owens)
Subject: PowerBook 165C: VGA support? Screen? (Q)

Does the PowerBook 165C provide VGA (actually, SVGA) monitor support?
Since we've got a SVGA monitor at home, what procedure do I need to
make it work with a 165C? (software? hardware adapter?) Or is it impossible?

How bad is the screen? For a passive matrix screen, is it tolerable,
or is the quality so poor as to make it unusable?

(They're being offered at such a huge discount now, my father is considering
purchasing one.)

Any other comments are appreciated.

John Owens
[e-mail]

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Date: 25 Jun 93 09:31:42 -0300
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PowerPC News/Moto Ad/60 SPECint92 again

In Thursday's Wall Street Journal, Motorola had a large (12-page!) advertising
supplement for the PowerPC. They're really going after the Pentium!

Perhaps the "60 SPECint92" figure isn't wrong after all...here's the chart
provided:

            Pentium         PowerPC 601

MHz                     66              66

SPECint92               64.5            >60

SPECfp92                56.9            >80

Power (worst case)      16 W            8.5 W

die size (mm^2)         262             120

"It will run circles around its only real competitor, the Intel Pentium(tm)
microprocessor, and it will do so at a fraction of the cost."

Furthermore, they clearly chart out (in broad strokes only, of course...) the
future of the PowerPC family: "Over the next 18 months, we'll ship ever more
powerful versions of the PowerPC Microprocessor. The low-wattage PowerPC 603
[estimated SPECmarks from graph: 130] will bring unprecedented performance to
battery-powered computers. The PowerPC 604 will push high-end PC and server
performance to new highs [estimated SPECmarks from graph: 180]. The PowerPC
620 will run at 200 to 400 SPECmarks in high-end workstation, server and
supercomputer applications.

Operating systems touted are OS/2-Windows, Solaris, PowerOpen (UNIX), MacOS,
Taligent, and DOS (via emulation), plus "it's open to anything".

Price? They give $450 for a 66MHz 601, but for lots of 1,000; $965 for
Pentium.

Want more info? Call 1-800-845-MOTO, get the PowerPC Information Pack.

Good ad. But what happens when someone who reads it wants to buy a PowerPC-
based machine tomorrow? Maybe the ad should have mentioned that later this
year, machines under $2500 would be available (their price) rather than
giving the impression that machines were out.

Sean

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 11:54:31 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Wayne K. Walrath)
Subject: Problems with FTPMAIL (A)

    Marc Leroux ([e-mail]) writes:
   .....
   Specifically, I tried to get mac-digest-stack-11.hqx using the following
   commands.

   connect sumex-aim.stanford.edu
   binary
   chunksize 100000
   uuencode
   get /info-mac/card/mac-digest-stack-11.hqx
   quit

only suggestions....
Since an .hqx file is already in an ascii form, I would suggest
dropping the 'binary' and 'uuencode' commands, and you also won't need
to UUlite the file when it arrives.

   I received three messages. I combined the three using MS Word, then ran
   UUlite
   to decode the file. Then I ran into problems. I used Stuffit lite to
   BinHex4
   the file but was told that it was not a BinHex4 file. It also wasn't any
   known
   archive format. On the off chance, I changed the file type to Hypercard and
   (surprise, surprise) it isn't a Hypercard stack. Now I'm at a loss!

Perhaps you didn't paste the chunks back together exactly right; make
sure you remove all headers from the 2nd and later chunks, and don't
let any extraneous characters remain between the chunks when you
reassemble them. Since you used Word to glue the pieces together, make
certain you saved as Text only (w/out line breaks???? not sure about this).

   Note that I used the same procedure on two other files and they worked fine
   (using the above procedure).

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 12:32:34 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: Quatra 800 is it reliable (Q)

JP Weaver <[e-mail]> writes:

>  I am doing a survey which I will gladly post the
>  results of. I am thinking about purchasing one and I
>  don't want to get stuck with another IIfx situation.
>  Super fast when it runs. So here are my questions:
>  1) Is the 800 a reliable (hardware) machine?
>  2) does it reliably run software without crashing?
>  3) does it have any qwerks with networking?
>  4) does it work well with other scci devices?
>  I would appreciate any info that I can get.

    I've been using an 800 since shortly after they came out. I have
never had any problems that could be attributed to the machine itself. I
did have one disk problem. Where did get the idea that the Q800 was
going to be another IIfx?

-Hades

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Date: 25 Jun 1993 00:27:54 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Adriano Lucatello)
Subject: Remote connection problem (Q)

The scenario is the following:

I use two Macs:
a) a Plus with System 6.0.5 with a Sportster 14.4 modem and
b) a MacIIsi with System 7.0 with a Bronze Teleport and a Line Manager
which routes fax/phone/modem calls as necessary.
Both Macs are on a single phone line and both run TB2 Remote 3.0 with
Dial-in access on.
Now, a) can connect without any problems with b) but NOT viceversa
if b) tries to connect with a), the Teleport (hooked on the fax port of the
Line manager and with Global s/w set to dedicated fax line) freezes the
screen completely and jams everything.

Now the questions:
1) Is the Teleport Bronze compatible with TB2 Remote at all?
2) if it is, how can I adapt the Teleport, its s/w and the Line Manager
connection with these new requirements?
3) assuming that in the future I might have a second (faster) modem hooked
to the modem port of the Line Manager and the serial port of the MacIIsi,
will Global s/w allow a modem connection or will that interfere between the
two different modems? I would like to keep the Teleport going as it does
receive fax unattended and turns the Mac on/off without extra hardware.
Incidentally, I wish to comment on its advertized capacities of receiving
faxes unattended. This did not work at all for me until I was recommended
by a Teleport user to buy a simple Line Manager which solved the problem. A
part from this I have no other problems with it and find its s/w very
simple to master and quite reliable.

If you can help please reply to: [e-mail]

Thanks

Adriano Lucatello

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 12:14:21 -0400
From: [e-mail] (David Allan)
Subject: Repairing Apple 13 in RGB Monitor

I recently performed some repairs to my Apple color monitor and thought
that I should share my experiences with the net.

I have an apple hi-res 13" RGB monitor.  Lately I've had problems with the
monitor cutting out (turning itself off completely).  This symptom is like
that described in an Apple recall, but my serial number was not included in
the recall.  According to Larry Pina's book, _The Dead Mac Scrolls_, the
problem can be remedied by adjusting a resistor labelled "cutoff".  Making
the adjustment allowed me to use the monitor, but each time I adjusted it
the picture became darker.  On the facing page in Pina's book, he tells
about replacing a high voltage resistor, but doesn't indicate if replacing
it solves the same problem as adjusting the cutoff resistor.  Anyway, I
decided to replace the resistor.  I ordered a new high voltage resistor
>From Sony, using the part number in Dead Mac Scrolls.  The part, with
shipping and sales tax, was $62.  This component is the thing that attaches
to the wire with the suction cup plugged into the CRT.  I was a bit nervous
about messing around with the high voltage, but I discharged everything
with a grounded screwdriver.  It took me a little while to figure how to
unplug the suction-cup connector (you squeeze it).  Then, I had to unsolder
two leads and solder in the new part.  That was not too difficult.  There
appeared to be some grease under the suction cup, so I used automotive
dielectric silicone grease (for spark plug wires) when I reinstalled the
new part.  Finally, I reassembled the monitor, held my breath, and turned
it on.  Voila!  It worked.  I readjusted the cutoff resistor back to its
original setting, to make the picture brighter, and the monitor didn't cut
out.  Time will tell if the repair holds, but for right now I'm happy.

I hope these experiences will be useful to someone else.

David Allan
[e-mail]

These comments do not reflect the views of my employer.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 12:32:32 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Resolve & AutoDoubler update

An update on my query of a few days ago...

    I use (and really like) Resolve (was using version 1.0v2) -
especially its scriptability. HOWEVER, since adding AutoDoubler version
2.0i, I get a bomb (bus error) whenever I try to save a file, or turn
AutoSave on, or on occasions open a file. Although I have a pile of
INITS/extensions shoehorned into my 8MB/40MB SE/30 (System 7.0.1 British),
it's definitely AutoDoubler that's the problem: disable it at startup and
Resolve is rock solid.


...the bottom line is - upgrade to AutoDoubler 2.0.1. Although it wasn't a
known bug, AD 2.0 had problems with other Claris products too, and the
Resolve problem seems to have disappeared with the upgrade.

Thanks to others who reminded me

    (i) in the situation I describe above it STILL MAY NOT be the INIT
conflict you think it is. You need to boot up with *just* the putative
offender active and see if the bug persists. INITS interact in mysterious
ways...

    (ii) other suggestions for AutoDoubler problems include making sure
the AD cache is not too high (<256K) and putting the problematical
application in the "Do not compress..." list.

Thanks to Claris for the comment

    "We don't have any recorded incidences of any problems with this.
If you don't have the current version of autodoubler this might be a
conflict with an older version. If you do it very well could be
incompatible but not a bug. This would be an incompatability." I remain
unsure of the difference (presumably a question of apportioning blame!).

As to whether Claris have abandoned the product,

    "Claris has not made any public announcement as to the future of
Claris Resolve. We are still providing technical support for this product."

Read into that what you will!

Anyway thanks once again to all. I'm now a firm info-mac fan!

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 10:22:23 -0600 (MDT)
From: Bradley Nation <[e-mail]>
Subject: screensaver FAQ

I am trying to reach Lloyd Wood A.K.A. [e-mail] but am unable
to send email at this address, I get "unknown user" on the returned mail.
Is there an other location to reach Lloyd.  Lloyd, if you are reading this
here is my reply concerning After Dark and Fileguard:
<The problem was that every time I booted or rebooted, I had to reset the
AD steeings, e.g. password and the module choice.  The versions of AD were
2.0v and FG is 2.7.  It was working fine before I reformatted my
hard drive.
I had to reformat it because FileGuard needed a different driver to be able
to protect my hard drive.  I could not do a "takeover" with Silver Linning,
only a full refornmatt would do. FileGuard will only work with a few brands
of HD drivers to protect the HD. Some of them are: Apple Driver, Micronet
driver, Silver Linning, SCSI Director Pro, and maybe Aliance Power tool
(that's what the Techrep at File Guard said).
I hope this answers the questions, if not, drop me an email and I will try
again.
Brad Nation
[e-mail]
>

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 16:40 PDT
From: Terry Carroll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Terminal Emulator Name Wanted

>       We're looking at setting up Macintoshes on an Ethernet.  This
> means, of course, somehow getting MacTCP.  A few months ago (couldn't
> have been more than three) I saw a couple of ads for a Macintosh
> terminal emulator that included in it MacTCP for less than the cost
> that Apple itself was selling MacTCP alone for.  My problem is that I
> can't for the life of me remember the name of this product and I've
> been through the MacWorld and MacUsers for the last 2 months or so
> and cannot find the ad.
>
>       Does this product description ring a bell with anyone?

Sound like it might be the emulator I use (and am using to compose this
message) -- TCP/Connect II from InterCon.

It's not bad.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:06:58 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: The Mac Internet Tour Guide

I'd like to wish Michael Fraase and Ventana the best of luck
with their forthcoming new book about the Internet. Of course,
I'm completely and utterly biased, since I'm writing a similar
book for Hayden Books and having a wonderful time playing on
the nets (yeah, even more than I normally do here) and testing
Mac software for the Internet (at last look I had about 12 MB
of it, most freeware and shareware). Michael's book will beat
mine out by a month or three, but then I get to write about all
the neat stuff that appears during that time period. In every
Internet cloud... :-)

Since Michael's book isn't actually out yet, and I haven't
finished writing large portions of mine, there isn't any way to
judge between them at the moment, even if I were unbiased. I
will be releasing bits and pieces in TidBITS over the next few
months, though, so you can all have a preview of the sort of
thing about which I'm writing.

I'd like to say, "May the best book win!" but unfortunately I
suspect that on a realistic level, marketing has more to do
with it than literary quality and clarity of thought. Sigh, I'm
getting cynical in my old age, and all the world is a marketing
scheme.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:56:44 EST
From: "David Virga" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Trouble Installing ARA (R), and more ARA stuff (Q)

In IM Digest 11-128, [e-mail] (Lawrence M. Hanser) writes:
Subject: Trouble installing ARA (Q)

>I apologize for not paying attention to all the bandwidth on ARA.  I
>received version 1.0 of ARA bundled with my PB 100.  Yesterday I installed
>it on my SE at home, and when I tried to open the application I got a
>message that it was improperly installed and should be reinstalled.  Well,
>I just used the installer that came with it...  So I reinstalled it and
>once again got the same message.  Next, I installed it on my PB 100
>thinking maybe it was something about the SE.  Well, I got exactly the same
>message on my PB 100.  Any comments, suggestions, other help, would be much
>appreciated.  E-mail to me directly and I'll summarize to the net.

This also happened to me recently when I (finally) installed ARA on my PB170
8/80 with PowerPort Gold.  The error message, "ARA is improperly installed" is
totally misleading.  Your installation is fine.  The real problem is that
AppleTalk is not turned on.  Do so in the Chooser (and restart), and select
the
"Remote Only" item in the Network Control Panel (put there by ARA), and you'll
be in business.

I would like to hear from other ARA users about how well it works for you.  I
am using a Mac IIfx 20/205 with a SupraFaxModem v.32bis as the dial-in host,
and with username/password and dialback security features enabled.

My one serious complaint is that I have, on a few occasions, had a problem
where my connection will repeatedly drop within 10 seconds of the callback
connection.  The solution, forwarded to (800) SOS-APPL as well (they had no
clue when asked about it...), was to reinitialize AppleTalk on the host IIfx
by
turning AppleTalk off, restarting, turning AppleTalk on, and restarting
again.
A PITA, to say the least!  Any ideas on how/why it gets confused, or easier
fixes?

What's the consensus on ARA's throughput speed?  I feel it's certainly usable,
but could be faster.  It seems to me that the host IIfx is taking too long to
turn the phoneline traffic into ethernet traffic, and vice versa.  ...or am I
just too impatient?

I also heard rumor somewhere that ARA disables modem data compression and
handles it on its own.  True???  Any way to re-enable hardware data
compression, which is certain to be much more efficient?

Any recommendations for a central network dial-in service for Macs?  How about
Shiva's LanRover/E 8-port box?  Does it support username/password and dialback
security?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks!!

Dave
[e-mail]
***  MY opinions!!  Don't try to say, "The Government said..."  ***

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:40:34 EDT
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: What does more ROM do for you?

Provide education, please-what does a computer do better or faster with
more ROM? What would be the limitations of an old Mac with expanded RAM
and accelerated processor speed if the ROM were considerably lower than
that of a new stock Mac with similar RAM and CPU speed and chip? And
do people upgrade their ROMs to bigger ones? If so, why, how, and how
expensive? (No, I am not driven by demons to try to find additional
things to spend money on, just curious). I thought the ROM was a static
and very basic memory pool holding instructions to the machine such as
"This is a disk over here and you oughta look for a System / Finder on
it", or "This is a screen", etc. I also gather that machines with very
low ROM configurations have been able to behave as if they were Macs of
later vintage-the Lisa allegedly had something very tiny like 16K ROM,
but in its reincarnation as a Mac XL it was supposed to be a fairly
impressive machine when compared to the stock Mac Plus (despite Plus's
128K ROMS), i.e., something along the lines of a rather slow Macintosh
II. What does the Mac Plus do with its extra 112K worth of ROMS? And,
more to the point, if someone comes along with a fast 40 MHz
68040-based accelerator and Joe Blow drops it into his, let's say,
IIsi, along with gobs of memory, in what ways will the new Cyclone blow
Joe away due to ROM discrepancy? (I hear the Cyclone will debut with 2
MB ROMS, is that correct?)

- Allan Hunter
 <ahunter@sbccvm>

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 16:44:15 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Word6 compatible with WinWord?

I know it is in Microsoft plans to have Word for both Macintosh and Windows
share a good portion of the code so to have complete file format/macros
compatibility - as it is now with Excel 4. Does anybody know if that is
going to happen with Word 6 and WinWord 3.0, both already in the works? I
am a technical translator who is required to use the Windows environment
just because WinWord is the standard wordprocessor for writing
documentation.
BTW, when is Word6 expected to be out?

Please forward your reply DIRECTLY to me as well, thanks.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 08:29:16 CDT
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zterm compatible with SupraFaxModem v32????

We are unable to get Zterm to work with our new SupraFaxModem v 32. We
tried 2400, 9600 bps and different configurations (xon/xoff, hardware
handshaking, etc). We can connect with the host but then it hangs--cannot
enter any commands. Would appreciate help. TIA!

                   Eric [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 04:30:27 EDT
From: David Wechsler Mac guru <[e-mail]>

Hi netters

I`m looking for a program that convert Macintosh sound format to
window(wave) format.
Are there shareware hacks available?
Please reply me via my e-mail maybe this is a faq ...

thanxs for any ideas!


                -David

[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 08:41:24 -0600
From: USENET News System <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.mac.digest,comp.sys.mac.misc
Path: rintintin.Colorado.EDU!lorenzo
From: [e-mail] (Eric Lorenzo)
Subject: SpeedyCD & FWB CD Toolkit for mac?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [e-mail] (USENET News System)
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 14:41:21 GMT
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    I was wondering if anyone knew about or was familiar with either
SpeedyCD and FWB CD Toolkit as opposed to Apple's standard CD driver (I'm
using it wih my Apple cd300i).  The main problem I'm having with my drive
is if there is sound and the disc is accessed, the sound starts to 'jump'
and the effect of the sound is ruined.  Would either of these other
drivers help solve this problem?  I'm using a C610 8/230.

Thanks,
Eric
--
Eric J. Lorenzo
[e-mail]

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